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224 Valkyrie General Discussion / Re: cleaning the chamber
« Last post by aziroc on June 22, 2019, 10:12:52 PM »
6.8 spc chamber brush?
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224 Valkyrie General Discussion / Re: The long road
« Last post by Hammerhead on June 22, 2019, 07:13:42 AM »
It takes some time to master but you must work on your "I'm maybe a little bored face" sitting there bangin steel at long range. Make em all think you do this all the time. ;D

My powder cabinet has more inventory than the gun shop thanks to the Valkyrie and I might have nearly shot my barrel out before I found a quarter moa load so the good news is I already have everything to start over except a barrel. ::)
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224 Valkyrie General Discussion / Re: The long road
« Last post by CCronin on June 21, 2019, 07:02:22 PM »
Hammerhead, I love shooting the valkyrie at the range also.  There really arn't many people around here that shoot long range.  So when I plug something at 1000 yards heads pop up.  I never tell them it took 1200 rounds and a $600 custom barrel, lol.  Let em guess.
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224 Valkyrie General Discussion / Re: The long road
« Last post by CCronin on June 21, 2019, 06:47:40 PM »
I’ve had a little more time to read through your informative post and reflect.

It seems you have climbed a steep reloading learning curve in a very short time frame – congratulations!

With respect to powder scales, I went through about 5 different multi-hundred$ electronic scales, including 3 supposedly 0.0001g electronic balances from China, which while sensitive to .0001g, would not hold tare. I finally “bit the bullet” and bought a used Mettler. Excellent machine.

A big part of the bullet deformation issue with your Hornady die is likely the high neck tension due to over-resizing of the neck. If you haven’t gone to a die with neck bushings, it’s likely time. FYI - I use .250" and .249" bushings with Starline cases.

From a bench gun background, I also find the AR platform, even when shot from a bench with a sturdy bipod and a rear bag, to be quite sensitive to shooting technique and hold. Even with an AR that shoots very well, shooter technique seems much more critical than my other rifles (bench/varmint guns), and getting those one-hole groups is difficult.

I use Rock River 2-stage triggers with JP Powers reduced power springs and further modify the triggers by removing about 1 ˝ coils from the disconnector spring. This gives a fairly light pull with minimal creep, but sacrifices reliability with some commercial ammo (but 100% with CCI400 primed reloads).

Is your Creedmore a bolt gun or on an AR platform?

“it has to be about the journey and not the destination”
I have multiple excellent rifles including two 22BR’s, a slow twist 6BR, a slow twist 30BR, a full custom 6.5x55 Swedish (built before the rise of the Creedmore), and two absolute tack-driver RRA Varmint model AR-15’s chambered in .223Wylde. I chose to build a 224V “for fun”(!) knowing full well there were "issues", and that it would be a challenge. While I have not yet achieved results acceptable to me (I likely have a higher bar than many AR shooters), and have been frustrated at times (lots of times), I am enjoying the challenge.

Currently I'm trying to get both the 88 ELD and 90 SMK to shoot .5 MOA at 100, but still not there. The journey continues . . .

Great info.  My creedmoor is a RPR.  It's  really nice to shoot.  It's my wife's accually. 

I use neck bushings for that rifle.  For some reason I thought you shouldn't use neck bushings for an AR.  Are you saying it's ok.  If so that will solve my neck tension problems.

I'll check out that trigger, too.
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224 Valkyrie General Discussion / Re: The long road
« Last post by CCronin on June 21, 2019, 06:39:23 PM »
This is pretty much the road I am currently on. How long did it take you from first time out with your AR to where you are now?

About 6 months.  I made a lot of mistakes that increased the time.  Bad equipment set me back quite abit.  I like experimenting so I spent more time than needed testing powders and bullets.
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224 Valkyrie General Discussion / Re: The long road
« Last post by Hammerhead on June 21, 2019, 10:01:08 AM »
KRC, you have the right bullet. They are discontinued and they are out of stock everywhere because I bought em all maybe. Would love to see some 83 grainers hit the market for reloading soon. I imagine they are giving them all to Federal for the factory ammo right now.
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224 Valkyrie General Discussion / Re: The long road
« Last post by KRC on June 21, 2019, 06:19:03 AM »
Hammerhead

What 82 gr. Berger Hybrid????

Berger Hybrids shoot very well in my bench rifles, but the only .224 82 gr. Berger listed on their website is a discontinued HPBT (#22424), which seems to be "Out of Stock" everywhere.
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224 Valkyrie General Discussion / Re: The long road
« Last post by KRC on June 21, 2019, 06:13:42 AM »
I’ve had a little more time to read through your informative post and reflect.

It seems you have climbed a steep reloading learning curve in a very short time frame – congratulations!

With respect to powder scales, I went through about 5 different multi-hundred$ electronic scales, including 3 supposedly 0.0001g electronic balances from China, which while sensitive to .0001g, would not hold tare. I finally “bit the bullet” and bought a used Mettler. Excellent machine.

A big part of the bullet deformation issue with your Hornady die is likely the high neck tension due to over-resizing of the neck. If you haven’t gone to a die with neck bushings, it’s likely time. FYI - I use .250" and .249" bushings with Starline cases.

From a bench gun background, I also find the AR platform, even when shot from a bench with a sturdy bipod and a rear bag, to be quite sensitive to shooting technique and hold. Even with an AR that shoots very well, shooter technique seems much more critical than my other rifles (bench/varmint guns), and getting those one-hole groups is difficult.

I use Rock River 2-stage triggers with JP Powers reduced power springs and further modify the triggers by removing about 1 ˝ coils from the disconnector spring. This gives a fairly light pull with minimal creep, but sacrifices reliability with some commercial ammo (but 100% with CCI400 primed reloads).

Is your Creedmore a bolt gun or on an AR platform?

“it has to be about the journey and not the destination”
I have multiple excellent rifles including two 22BR’s, a slow twist 6BR, a slow twist 30BR, a full custom 6.5x55 Swedish (built before the rise of the Creedmore), and two absolute tack-driver RRA Varmint model AR-15’s chambered in .223Wylde. I chose to build a 224V “for fun”(!) knowing full well there were "issues", and that it would be a challenge. While I have not yet achieved results acceptable to me (I likely have a higher bar than many AR shooters), and have been frustrated at times (lots of times), I am enjoying the challenge.

Currently I'm trying to get both the 88 ELD and 90 SMK to shoot .5 MOA at 100, but still not there. The journey continues . . .





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224 Valkyrie General Discussion / Re: cleaning the chamber
« Last post by trianglevelvet on June 21, 2019, 02:40:20 AM »
I've been using a .223/5.56 chamber brush.
I figure that the fit in the neck/throat area is more important than along the case walls.
I figure if I need to heavily scrub the area of case walls I could take a pair of snippers and cut the end off of a 308 brush so I'm not trying to stuff a 30 cal tip into the neck area.
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